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here's luck ([personal profile] heresluck) wrote in [community profile] hamiltunes2015-11-27 11:04 am

interesting essay at Vox: Hamilton and historiography

http://www.vox.com/2015/11/27/9771784/hamilton-cabinet-battle-debt

Teaser:
The net impact of Miranda's rendition of the dispute is to render Hamilton as a more progressive-friendly figure and Jefferson as a more straightforwardly conservative one. Jefferson complains that Hamilton's text is too long, echoing Republican criticisms of Barack Obama's key legislative initiatives, and objects generically to taxes — again, sounding like a modern Republican — without raising the point that 18th-century taxes hit the poor more heavily than the rich.

This is part of a larger shift in the trajectory of how American history is understood. [...]

Miranda's Hamilton so perfectly matches the sensibilities of mainstream Obama-era Democrats that the Democratic National Committee turned an early November Hamilton performance into a fundraiser.

And it reflects an ongoing, albeit somewhat subtle, split among contemporary Democrats.
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[personal profile] brainwane 2015-11-27 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooooh! Thank you so much for the link. I literally thought yesterday that I'd like to see political scientists' opinions on the Hamilton rendering of those disputes! And on a different axis, I see Hamilton as following a new trend of silly, earthy, exuberant, sentimental, loving, infernokrusher and literally fantastic retellings of our history.
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[personal profile] yatima 2015-11-27 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
YES GOOD
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[personal profile] jjhunter 2015-11-27 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That is also much of what I love about the Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage, yes!
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[personal profile] brainwane 2015-12-21 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I should have mentioned that in the piece I just wrote -- thank you for the reminder that Thrilling Adventures is in the same vein!
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[personal profile] jjhunter 2016-01-02 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
My pleasure, and thanks for the link to your piece - I enjoyed it very much!
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[personal profile] rosefox 2015-11-27 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so interesting to me that people are treating Hamilton (and Chernow's biography) as wholly complimentary and flattering to Hamilton and his ideas, when it's pretty clearly an attempt to complicate our views of them.
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[personal profile] isis 2015-11-27 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with your comment here! I really do like the complexity that both works don't shy away from - "in addition to being a nerd and a charmer he's also a drama queen, a workaholic, and an arrogant whiner with anger issues who cheats on his wife and exercises staggeringly bad judgment on a regular basis", hee, exactly!

I don't agree that the lines are clearly drawn as Hamilton=liberal and Jefferson=conservative in either Chernow's book (which I've just finished) or the musical. It's a lot more nuanced than that, even in the musical - yes, Jefferson's poking fun at "too many damn pages" echos modern politics, but so does everything in The Election of 1800 - I think LMM is not so much drawing lines as pointing out that the machinery of politics hasn't changed much in 200 years.
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[personal profile] jesse_the_k 2015-11-27 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Just so. I can't name a single most thrilling part of the production, but the sense that the Founders were absolutely human, frangible, irrational is so welcome. The musical undies the transformation of our yeasty, strange, intermittent history into frozen wax figures.
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[personal profile] grammarwoman 2015-12-01 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a fascinating article - thanks for posting it!